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		<title>By: BahGah</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-16137</link>
		<dc:creator>BahGah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PaYeD: To quote you:
&quot;I want to argue this statement. Indian and Chinese [Malaysians] have their own school. Do Malay [Malaysians] have their own schools? You want to eliminate Malay [Malaysian] rights - does Malaysia forbid you to raise your children? To marry? To collect property? Force you to use the Malay language? Force you to school your children in govt schools? This is what Malay [Malaysians] call &#039;diberi betis nak peha&#039; - which race monopolises the Malaysian economy? The Bar Council? Tell me. So, I don&#039;t pretend that you are fair and square. You are the true racist!&quot;

My previous comment was a tic-for-tat answer to your question. Yes, Malay [Malaysians] do have their own schools, provided and funded by the government. To my knowledge, most Chinese vernacular schools are privately/partially funded by the Chinese community.

Again, all we are asking are level playing grounds, and help ALL those who are in need without regard to race. You have to admit that the NEP has failed and it is not the fault of the other races that it did, so don&#039;t start the finger pointing. We are looking out for the country, not being racist.

Malaysia is going to play catch up with Vietnam soon if we do not improve. In the 70s Malaysia was considered as one of the four Asian Tigers, together with Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea. Look where they are now.. and we are competing with Vietnam? Obviously, change is necessary. 

It&#039;s no longer the time when UM was considered among the best universities in the world, things have changed, UM has lost out to Chulalongkorn University (Thailand). Our country is almost crippled, and you are still playing the race card? No one is challenging Article 154, NEP is not part of 154 and you know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PaYeD: To quote you:<br />
&#8220;I want to argue this statement. Indian and Chinese [Malaysians] have their own school. Do Malay [Malaysians] have their own schools? You want to eliminate Malay [Malaysian] rights &#8211; does Malaysia forbid you to raise your children? To marry? To collect property? Force you to use the Malay language? Force you to school your children in govt schools? This is what Malay [Malaysians] call &#8216;diberi betis nak peha&#8217; &#8211; which race monopolises the Malaysian economy? The Bar Council? Tell me. So, I don&#8217;t pretend that you are fair and square. You are the true racist!&#8221;</p>
<p>My previous comment was a tic-for-tat answer to your question. Yes, Malay [Malaysians] do have their own schools, provided and funded by the government. To my knowledge, most Chinese vernacular schools are privately/partially funded by the Chinese community.</p>
<p>Again, all we are asking are level playing grounds, and help ALL those who are in need without regard to race. You have to admit that the NEP has failed and it is not the fault of the other races that it did, so don&#8217;t start the finger pointing. We are looking out for the country, not being racist.</p>
<p>Malaysia is going to play catch up with Vietnam soon if we do not improve. In the 70s Malaysia was considered as one of the four Asian Tigers, together with Hong Kong, Taiwan and South Korea. Look where they are now.. and we are competing with Vietnam? Obviously, change is necessary. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s no longer the time when UM was considered among the best universities in the world, things have changed, UM has lost out to Chulalongkorn University (Thailand). Our country is almost crippled, and you are still playing the race card? No one is challenging Article 154, NEP is not part of 154 and you know it.</p>
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		<title>By: PaYeD</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15973</link>
		<dc:creator>PaYeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BAH GAH: Mara exists according to the 153 Act...I think you know about this act. [...]

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Do you mean Article 153 of the Federal Constitution?

Shanon Shah
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BAH GAH: Mara exists according to the 153 Act&#8230;I think you know about this act. [...]</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>Do you mean Article 153 of the Federal Constitution?</p>
<p>Shanon Shah<br />
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		<title>By: Merah Silu</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15937</link>
		<dc:creator>Merah Silu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Datuk Ibrahim Ali, you should continue with what you can do best. Nobody can ignore you. They can label you with all derogatory labels and I will always be at your side if you promote the right of Malay [Malaysians] in the country of our fathers and our great grand fathers since hundreds of years ago. These descendents of economic-seeking-immigrants are behaving just like their cousins everywhere in our neighbouring countries - ungrateful. They benefit from the wealth of countries and the generosity of our fathers. Now as usual they will talk about Malay [Malaysians] who are corrupt and all other bad things. But they are the ones who promote these practices. I hope you still have the energy and dedication of this noble pursuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Datuk Ibrahim Ali, you should continue with what you can do best. Nobody can ignore you. They can label you with all derogatory labels and I will always be at your side if you promote the right of Malay [Malaysians] in the country of our fathers and our great grand fathers since hundreds of years ago. These descendents of economic-seeking-immigrants are behaving just like their cousins everywhere in our neighbouring countries &#8211; ungrateful. They benefit from the wealth of countries and the generosity of our fathers. Now as usual they will talk about Malay [Malaysians] who are corrupt and all other bad things. But they are the ones who promote these practices. I hope you still have the energy and dedication of this noble pursuit.</p>
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		<title>By: BahGah</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15883</link>
		<dc:creator>BahGah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@PaYeD: Yes, Malay [Malaysians] do have their own schools. As I know it, boarding schools are Malay only and government funded, same goes with MARA colleges. 

Non-Malay [Malaysians] are not asking alot, we just want the same playing field, help all those who are in need, not because of their race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PaYeD: Yes, Malay [Malaysians] do have their own schools. As I know it, boarding schools are Malay only and government funded, same goes with MARA colleges. </p>
<p>Non-Malay [Malaysians] are not asking alot, we just want the same playing field, help all those who are in need, not because of their race.</p>
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		<title>By: Racism? Most Malaysian's are..</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15876</link>
		<dc:creator>Racism? Most Malaysian's are..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that most Malaysians don&#039;t understand the concept of racism. Unfortunately some of the comments and reading into Ibrahim Ali&#039;s interview glaringly points that out.
The moment you divide people into Malay, Indian and Chinese and attribute wealth, attributes or other characteristics to them, that is racism. The moment you generalise people into groups (i.e. all Malays are racist, is pot calling the kettle black).

Each human is born with rights. They are NOT given from one race to another. So you can&#039;t say, you are not racist because people have been allowed to do this or that. They always had these rights. Malaysia belongs to the citizens of Malaysia and not one single communal group. That is why the constitution does NOT spell out the special privileges given to Malay [Malaysians] (NEP is not one of them, neither are any of the &quot;new&quot; laws created after the fact). So the act of looking at an &quot;organisation&quot; and seeing racial overtones in it is racial in it self. I doubt every Chinese or Indian [Malaysians] have secret meetings on how to &quot;control&quot; this or that (if they are, nobody has been inviting me).

Malaysia cannot handle communal politics and continue to be a viable country any longer. The old way of doling out the riches of the country no longer works because we no longer have money to afford to be able to do that any longer. We edge closer and closer every day to being a bankrupt state and risk social anarchy just for reasons of sheer pride.

Unless politicians from both sides can start being Malaysians first, and taking care of their country (rather than hiding special interests under the guise of communal, religious overtones), we are pretty much doomed. I fear however that most people in Perkasa would rather be a &quot;King of a dung heap&quot; than let somebody help them to a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that most Malaysians don&#8217;t understand the concept of racism. Unfortunately some of the comments and reading into Ibrahim Ali&#8217;s interview glaringly points that out.<br />
The moment you divide people into Malay, Indian and Chinese and attribute wealth, attributes or other characteristics to them, that is racism. The moment you generalise people into groups (i.e. all Malays are racist, is pot calling the kettle black).</p>
<p>Each human is born with rights. They are NOT given from one race to another. So you can&#8217;t say, you are not racist because people have been allowed to do this or that. They always had these rights. Malaysia belongs to the citizens of Malaysia and not one single communal group. That is why the constitution does NOT spell out the special privileges given to Malay [Malaysians] (NEP is not one of them, neither are any of the &#8220;new&#8221; laws created after the fact). So the act of looking at an &#8220;organisation&#8221; and seeing racial overtones in it is racial in it self. I doubt every Chinese or Indian [Malaysians] have secret meetings on how to &#8220;control&#8221; this or that (if they are, nobody has been inviting me).</p>
<p>Malaysia cannot handle communal politics and continue to be a viable country any longer. The old way of doling out the riches of the country no longer works because we no longer have money to afford to be able to do that any longer. We edge closer and closer every day to being a bankrupt state and risk social anarchy just for reasons of sheer pride.</p>
<p>Unless politicians from both sides can start being Malaysians first, and taking care of their country (rather than hiding special interests under the guise of communal, religious overtones), we are pretty much doomed. I fear however that most people in Perkasa would rather be a &#8220;King of a dung heap&#8221; than let somebody help them to a better way.</p>
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		<title>By: PaYeD</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15850</link>
		<dc:creator>PaYeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most non-Malay [Malaysians] say Malay [Malaysians] are so racist. I want to argue this statement. Indian and Chinese [Malaysians] have their own school. Do Malay [Malaysians] have their own schools? You want to eliminate Malay [Malaysian] rights - does Malaysia forbid you to raise your children? To marry? To collect property? Force you to use the Malay language? Force you to school your childred in govt schools? This is what Malay [Malaysians] call &#039;diberi betis nak peha&#039; - which races monopoly the Malaysian economy? The Bar Council? Tell me. So, I don&#039;t pretend that you are fair and square. You are the true racist!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most non-Malay [Malaysians] say Malay [Malaysians] are so racist. I want to argue this statement. Indian and Chinese [Malaysians] have their own school. Do Malay [Malaysians] have their own schools? You want to eliminate Malay [Malaysian] rights &#8211; does Malaysia forbid you to raise your children? To marry? To collect property? Force you to use the Malay language? Force you to school your childred in govt schools? This is what Malay [Malaysians] call &#8216;diberi betis nak peha&#8217; &#8211; which races monopoly the Malaysian economy? The Bar Council? Tell me. So, I don&#8217;t pretend that you are fair and square. You are the true racist!</p>
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		<title>By: PaYeD</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15849</link>
		<dc:creator>PaYeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALAN TING n sunny bunny: you MUST study the constitution before giving your comments here ok. You said &quot;invite MCA and MIC members to join perkasa&quot;? So how about the Chinese [Malaysian] associations and Hindraf? Would they invite Malay [Malaysians]?

Towering Malay: I agree with you. Eliminate the ali baba...but who is always giving bribes and taking all the advantage?

m.k: [...] I didn&#039;t see him speaking about donating all the non-Malay [Malaysian] riches to Malay [Malaysians]. He means the govt should manage the contracts and not monopoly of the riches only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALAN TING n sunny bunny: you MUST study the constitution before giving your comments here ok. You said &#8220;invite MCA and MIC members to join perkasa&#8221;? So how about the Chinese [Malaysian] associations and Hindraf? Would they invite Malay [Malaysians]?</p>
<p>Towering Malay: I agree with you. Eliminate the ali baba&#8230;but who is always giving bribes and taking all the advantage?</p>
<p>m.k: [...] I didn&#8217;t see him speaking about donating all the non-Malay [Malaysian] riches to Malay [Malaysians]. He means the govt should manage the contracts and not monopoly of the riches only.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Bennit</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15840</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Bennit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[He] is a hypocrite of the highest order, was with BN first, then Semangat 46, then independent. Now? BN stooge. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[He] is a hypocrite of the highest order, was with BN first, then Semangat 46, then independent. Now? BN stooge. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: penat</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15837</link>
		<dc:creator>penat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 09:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is already in place; even Parliament cannot amend it.&quot;

The guy has gone bonkers! Even Allah amended the Quranic verses. I&#039;m surprised people pay any attention at all to [him]!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is already in place; even Parliament cannot amend it.&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy has gone bonkers! Even Allah amended the Quranic verses. I&#8217;m surprised people pay any attention at all to [him]!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/real-deal-perkasa/#comment-15831</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooh... And that little Dutch house on his shelf next to the red-coloured frame. I&#039;ve got one of those, too, but I haven&#039;t figured out what&#039;s inside. You get that when you travel business class on KLM. Not too shabby, Mr Datuk Ibrahim Ali!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooh&#8230; And that little Dutch house on his shelf next to the red-coloured frame. I&#8217;ve got one of those, too, but I haven&#8217;t figured out what&#8217;s inside. You get that when you travel business class on KLM. Not too shabby, Mr Datuk Ibrahim Ali!</p>
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