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	<title>Comments on: PAS wants Sisters in Islam investigated (Updated 6.30pm)</title>
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		<title>By: nik</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7379</link>
		<dc:creator>nik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many of us seems to overlook this statement in their bashing of PAS:

&quot; SIS should be investigated and declared &quot;haram&quot; if it is found to be anti-Islam, the 55th PAS muktamar declared today.&quot;

Of course PAS members in General are againts SIS, but their official resolution is not to immediately and blindly ban SIS, but only to ban if the majlis fatwa found SIS to be &#039;anti-Islam&#039;.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us seems to overlook this statement in their bashing of PAS:</p>
<p>&#8221; SIS should be investigated and declared &#8220;haram&#8221; if it is found to be anti-Islam, the 55th PAS muktamar declared today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course PAS members in General are againts SIS, but their official resolution is not to immediately and blindly ban SIS, but only to ban if the majlis fatwa found SIS to be &#8216;anti-Islam&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7231</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world has moved forward. Islam is still in the past. Religion has little standing in this world of modern scientific thinking. PAS needs to wake up or ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world has moved forward. Islam is still in the past. Religion has little standing in this world of modern scientific thinking. PAS needs to wake up or &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Lord Panda</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7230</link>
		<dc:creator>The Lord Panda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you live in Shah Alam, do you dare to vote Khalid Samad next time around, no matter how many visits he makes to churches in the next three years?&quot;

He&#039;s out. 

I want to be able to buy beer in my neighborhood Tesco &amp; 7-11.

Toyo, come back. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you live in Shah Alam, do you dare to vote Khalid Samad next time around, no matter how many visits he makes to churches in the next three years?&#8221;</p>
<p>He&#8217;s out. </p>
<p>I want to be able to buy beer in my neighborhood Tesco &#038; 7-11.</p>
<p>Toyo, come back.</p>
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		<title>By: Hafidz Baharom</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7227</link>
		<dc:creator>Hafidz Baharom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually weakness is correct. Unless PKR can somehow win over PAS voters, or more Umno voters, they will have to live with PAS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually weakness is correct. Unless PKR can somehow win over PAS voters, or more Umno voters, they will have to live with PAS.</p>
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		<title>By: weakness</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7215</link>
		<dc:creator>weakness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, there is something for the rakyat to ponder upon. To be with PR or with BN. And hell PR cannot rule Malaysia without PAS&#039;s support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, there is something for the rakyat to ponder upon. To be with PR or with BN. And hell PR cannot rule Malaysia without PAS&#8217;s support.</p>
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		<title>By: Hafidz Baharom</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7209</link>
		<dc:creator>Hafidz Baharom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 09:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m considering the fact that Khalid Abdul Samad was blindsided by the Muslimat wing with the wording as it was presented.

So I guess a major question from me, as one of his constituents would be what action will he take against the Muslimat wing of Shah Alam who went against his direct order to tone it down?

Will there be a reprimand and show cause?

This is, of course, an internal matter for PAS Shah Alam to decide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m considering the fact that Khalid Abdul Samad was blindsided by the Muslimat wing with the wording as it was presented.</p>
<p>So I guess a major question from me, as one of his constituents would be what action will he take against the Muslimat wing of Shah Alam who went against his direct order to tone it down?</p>
<p>Will there be a reprimand and show cause?</p>
<p>This is, of course, an internal matter for PAS Shah Alam to decide.</p>
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		<title>By: aidan</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7181</link>
		<dc:creator>aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If SIS is to be investigated as anti-Muslim or anti-Islam, which Islam is PAS talking about?&quot; This is the question that really gets me. We are all forced to be &quot;Muslims&quot; or &quot;Islam&quot; based on fundamentalists&#039; opinions on what this religion is supposed to be. No room is given for debate,diversity, improvement or progress. SIS has done a lot of good work, but this is only seen as a threat to PAS. Long live SIS, many of us support you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If SIS is to be investigated as anti-Muslim or anti-Islam, which Islam is PAS talking about?&#8221; This is the question that really gets me. We are all forced to be &#8220;Muslims&#8221; or &#8220;Islam&#8221; based on fundamentalists&#8217; opinions on what this religion is supposed to be. No room is given for debate,diversity, improvement or progress. SIS has done a lot of good work, but this is only seen as a threat to PAS. Long live SIS, many of us support you!</p>
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		<title>By: Hafidz Baharom</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7108</link>
		<dc:creator>Hafidz Baharom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 01:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What PAS has asked for, as I understand it, is for the National Fatwa Council to investigate SIS. From what I&#039;ve understood so far, the Muslimats in PAS find SIS rather liberal and soft in their stance in Islam.

What was the exact wording used in the typed out booklet, Shanon?

And to quote you, if SIS is to be investigated as anti-Muslim or anti-Islam, which Islam is PAS talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What PAS has asked for, as I understand it, is for the National Fatwa Council to investigate SIS. From what I&#8217;ve understood so far, the Muslimats in PAS find SIS rather liberal and soft in their stance in Islam.</p>
<p>What was the exact wording used in the typed out booklet, Shanon?</p>
<p>And to quote you, if SIS is to be investigated as anti-Muslim or anti-Islam, which Islam is PAS talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: myop101</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7103</link>
		<dc:creator>myop101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 00:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAS can pass whatever resolutions they like but they should not force the closure and banning of any NGOs that have not committed crime. 

If they are deviant as PAS claims, then PAS should actively engage them in discussions and go into debates so as they can win the hearts and minds of their target audiences. 

How different will PAS be from its arch-rival, Umno, when it resorts to use the power of the state to silence harmless NGOs like SIS? PAS should be mindful that the rakyat at large can only tolerate their antics to a certain degree. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAS can pass whatever resolutions they like but they should not force the closure and banning of any NGOs that have not committed crime. </p>
<p>If they are deviant as PAS claims, then PAS should actively engage them in discussions and go into debates so as they can win the hearts and minds of their target audiences. </p>
<p>How different will PAS be from its arch-rival, Umno, when it resorts to use the power of the state to silence harmless NGOs like SIS? PAS should be mindful that the rakyat at large can only tolerate their antics to a certain degree.</p>
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		<title>By: chinhuatw</title>
		<link>http://www.thenutgraph.com/pas-wants-sisters-in-islam-investigated/#comment-7097</link>
		<dc:creator>chinhuatw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What kind of politicians prefer to silence opponents rather than exposing their flaws in debates? 

For many, the answer has so far been: those from Umno who know only raising a keris when they cannot win an argument. This motion of PAS has proved them wrong.

If SIS can be banned today, who would be next tomorrow when PAS joins (or leads, as it wishes) the next federal government? 

What is the point of having its non-Muslim supporters upgraded as a wing when it cannot even tolerate dissidents amongst the Muslims?

If you live in Shah Alam, do you dare to vote Khalid Samad next time around, no matter how many visits he makes to churches in the next three years? 

More serious than the loss of Husam and the talk of unity government, we are seeing a PAS leapfrogging to the right of Umno on the ethno-religious front. 

And if Khalid Samad is to lose the non-Muslim and liberal Muslim votes, how many mixed seats now held by PAS would be in danger? Can even Nizar survive in Bukit Gantang?

Remember 1990 and 1999? I see why Dr Dzulkefly Ahmad says PAS has this fear of success. But can you force a party to succeed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What kind of politicians prefer to silence opponents rather than exposing their flaws in debates? </p>
<p>For many, the answer has so far been: those from Umno who know only raising a keris when they cannot win an argument. This motion of PAS has proved them wrong.</p>
<p>If SIS can be banned today, who would be next tomorrow when PAS joins (or leads, as it wishes) the next federal government? </p>
<p>What is the point of having its non-Muslim supporters upgraded as a wing when it cannot even tolerate dissidents amongst the Muslims?</p>
<p>If you live in Shah Alam, do you dare to vote Khalid Samad next time around, no matter how many visits he makes to churches in the next three years? </p>
<p>More serious than the loss of Husam and the talk of unity government, we are seeing a PAS leapfrogging to the right of Umno on the ethno-religious front. </p>
<p>And if Khalid Samad is to lose the non-Muslim and liberal Muslim votes, how many mixed seats now held by PAS would be in danger? Can even Nizar survive in Bukit Gantang?</p>
<p>Remember 1990 and 1999? I see why Dr Dzulkefly Ahmad says PAS has this fear of success. But can you force a party to succeed?</p>
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